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Video conferencing for enterprise buyers

Asked as “video conferencing platform”, and as “video meeting software”, on behalf of an enterprise B2B company. 53 first choices recorded across the direct, paraphrase, budget and scale prompts, fourteen models each. Added to the October 2026 Edition on October 4, 2026; its answers are read by the distilled judge (ai-indexes-judge-qwen3-14b-run3), not the claude-opus-5 judge of the earlier categories: how the two compare.
Standing · first-choice share
57%
Clear leader
57Microsoft23Zoom Workplace13Cisco Webex08others

57% of first choices, clear leader.

By buyer segment

The same question asked on behalf of a different buyer. Each standing is computed within its segment; they sit side by side and are never added together.

The standing

Share is the count of first choices across the direct, paraphrase, budget and scale prompts, over all fourteen models, for an enterprise B2B company. Ordered by share.
ProductFirst-choice shareNegative rateLabelsQuadrant
01Microsoft57%4%69endorsed leader
02Zoom Workplace23%22%72accepted challenger
03Cisco Webex13%13%55accepted challenger
04WebEx8%15%13accepted challenger
Show the two products at 0%, ordered by negative rate
05Google Meet Lab in the set0%22%45accepted challenger
06TrueConf0%15%13accepted challenger
Bars are the share of first choices, 0 to 100Every product with at least 10 labels here. Every product name links to its product page.

Google Meet is made by Google, whose model Gemini 3.5 Flash is in the set. On the four share prompts that model made it the first choice zero times of 4; the other thirteen models zero times of 52. Lab treatment is defined on the method page; the row is marked, not excluded.

All six head-to-head pages: the top four products, each against each

Recommended versus criticized

Every product with at least 10 labels here, on both axes. The 30% line names a quadrant, not the verdict above: that one needs more than 40%.

Criticized challengerCriticized default
Negative label rate →
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Accepted challengerEndorsed leader
0%First-choice share → · lines at 30% share and 25% negative70%
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01Microsoft57%
02Zoom Workplace23%
03Cisco Webex13%
04WebEx8%
05Google Meet0%
06TrueConf0%

What they warned about

Four of fourteen models held their first choice under the paraphrase. Gemini 3.5 Flash, Perplexity Sonar, Grok 4.1 Fast, DeepSeek V4 Flash, Llama 4 Maverick, Qwen 3.7 Flash, Kimi K2, MiniMax M2.5, GPT-6 Luna and Muse Glimmer 30B changed. A high negative share on a product with few labels is a warning. A low share on a product with many labels is salience, not sentiment.
Zoom Workplace
22%
16 of 72 labels negative · 11 of 14 models · 2 hard negative
“Do not use Zoom; use air-gapped or on-premises platform” Muse Glimmer 30B, negative prompt
Google Meet
22%
10 of 45 labels negative · 8 of 14 models
“**Approach with caution** for financial, legal, or healthcare data unless you verify Workspace Enterprise compliance certifications” DeepSeek V4 Flash, negative prompt
Skype for Business
100%
5 of 5 labels negative · 5 of 14 models · 3 hard negative
“Why to avoid: After October 2026, Microsoft will issue zero security patches, bug fixes, or technical support for Skype for Business.” Gemini 3.5 Flash, negative prompt
Cisco Webex
13%
7 of 55 labels negative · 5 of 14 models · 1 hard negative
“Avoid Webex if cost predictability is your top priority, as its complex, negotiated pricing can lead to significant budget overruns.” Claude Haiku 4.5, budget prompt

What they cite

Citations exist only for the models that return a source list: fourteen of the fourteen in this edition, and all six flagship models on the expanded tier.

Sites the answers cite

73 of 84 answers in this category came back with a source list, from 14 of 14 models: citations where the model returns them, or the search results it consulted. 995 links across 261 sites, every framing counted. Ranked by the number of answers carrying the site or page. None of the 252 answers across every segment cited this index's own page for the category.

vendor site · TrueConf46 answers · 77 citations · 12 models
26 answers · 31 citations · 10 models
26 answers · 26 citations · 10 models
24 answers · 25 citations · 10 models
23 answers · 32 citations · 10 models
22 answers · 22 citations · 8 models
vendor site · WebEx21 answers · 23 citations · 9 models
vendor site · Guideflow20 answers · 20 citations · 9 models
vendor site · RingCentral19 answers · 23 citations · 9 models
vendor site · Slack18 answers · 27 citations · 9 models
vendor site · Zoom16 answers · 21 citations · 10 models
vendor site · LarkSuite15 answers · 17 citations · 10 models

Pages the answers cite

The ten pages named in the most answers, by full address. A page here is one the models returned with a recommendation, not one the index endorses.

Search against answers

Each company's standing in the answers beside its site's footprint in Google search, one row a site: the products the models named on it with their shares, and the share they add up to; monthly searches on Google, and DataForSEO's estimate of AI search demand (modeled from search signals, directional, not a count of queries to any assistant), for the most-searched of the company's and its products' names (the name is in each row's hover text); estimated monthly organic visits to the site; and its best position in Google's top ten for “best video conferencing platform”, “video conferencing platform”, “video conferencing platforms”. US estimates from DataForSEO and Google's Ads Transparency Center. A small company's site, or a mid-sized company's site for its flagship, is marked company; a product on a large parent's site (Google, Microsoft) has no site figures. A column with no figures for this category is left out, and an empty cell means none were seen, not none exist. Two measurements side by side: neither is read as the cause of the other.
Company and productsShareOwn site citedName searches, GoogleAI search demand, est.Organic visitsPaid search a month, est.Google ads, last 30 daysBest Google position
Microsoft microsoft.com57%2892,240,000403,136145,358,109$12,4551036
Zoom Workplace zoom.com23%20033,1008072,795,648$4,06447
Cisco parent site
Cisco Webex 13%
13%116165,00048,352
WebEx webex.com8%40110,0007,537373,0230
Google Meet google.com
Google Meet 0%, Google Workspace 0%
0%1601,830,00014,0731,800,358,416$465,9445
TrueConf trueconf.com
TrueConf 0%, TrueConf Server 0%
0%14320538,9780
RingCentral ringcentral.com
RingCentral 0%, RingCentral Video 0%, RingCentral RingEX 0%
0%165110,0003,4199,737,061$3,711120
Wickr Enterprise0%
Zoom for Enterprise0%
Cisco Webex Enterprise Agreement0%

Google's top ten for the three searches hold 17 sites; 4 of them are among the sites the models cited here (getvoip.com, larksuite.com, pcmag.com, slack.com). The first result for “best video conferencing platform” is slack.com.

How they answered

Six framings of the same buying question, each sent to every model in a fresh session with search on. One row per model, so a row shows whether it held its answer under rewording, what it named when cost was the constraint, and what it argued against. Computed from the raw judge labels.
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ModelDirect“What is the best video conferencing platform for an enterprise B2B company?”Paraphrase“Which video meeting software would you recommend to a large B2B company with thousands of employees?”Comparative“What are the top enterprise-grade video conferencing platforms and how do they differ?”Budget-constrained“What is the best video conferencing platform for a large company that needs predictable total cost across thousands of users?”Scale-constrained“We are a 5,000 person company with SSO, SOC 2 and procurement review requirements evaluating a video conferencing platform. What should we look at?”Negative“Which video conferencing platforms should a large enterprise avoid or be cautious about?”
Claude Haiku 4.5Microsoft, Zoom Workplace
Two alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet
Microsoft, Zoom WorkplaceHeld
Two alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet
Microsoft, Zoom Workplace
Two alternativesGoogle Meet, WebEx
Zoom Workplace
One alternativeMicrosoft
against: Cisco Webex
no first choiceagainst: Teams, WebEx, Zoom Workplace
GPT-5.4 miniMicrosoft
Three alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet, Zoom Workplace
MicrosoftHeld
Two alternativesGoogle Meet, Zoom Workplace
no first choice
Five alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet, Microsoft, RingCentral Video, Zoom Workplace
Microsoft
One alternativeCisco Webex
against: Zoom Workplace
no first choicenothing named
Gemini 3.5 FlashMicrosoft, Zoom Workplace
Two alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet
MicrosoftChanged
Three alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet, Zoom Workplace
Microsoft, Zoom Workplace
Two alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet
against: Dialpad, RingCentral
Microsoft
Three alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet, Zoom Workplace
no first choiceagainst: Apache OpenMeetings, BlueJeans, Discord, FaceTime, Facebook Messenger, Jitsi Meet, Lark Suite, Skype for Business, VooV Meeting / Tencent Meeting & WeChat Work, WhatsApp
Perplexity SonarCisco Webex
Two alternativesMicrosoft, Zoom Workplace
MicrosoftChanged
Two alternativesCisco Webex, Zoom Workplace
Microsoft, Zoom Workplace
Four alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet, RingCentral Video, TrueConf
against: Amazon Chime
Microsoft
One alternativeGoogle Meet via Workspace
against: Zoom Workplace
no first choiceagainst: GoToMeeting / GoTo, Google Meet, Zoho Meetings
Grok 4.1 FastCisco Webex, Microsoft
Two alternativesRingCentral, Zoom Workplace
MicrosoftChanged
Two alternativesCisco Webex, Zoom Workplace
Zoom Workplace
Four alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet, Microsoft, RingCentral
against: Dialpad, GoTo Meeting, Zoho Meeting
Microsoft
One alternativeCisco Webex
against: Zoom Workplace
Microsoft
Four alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet, RingCentral, Zoom Workplace
against: Google Meet, Jitsi, Skype, Zoom Workplace
Mistral SmallWebEx, Zoom WorkplaceWebEx, Zoom WorkplaceHeld
One alternativeMicrosoft
Zoom Workplace
Three alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet, Microsoft
Microsoft
One alternativeZoom Workplace
against: Cisco Webex
no first choiceagainst: Cisco
DeepSeek V4 FlashCisco Webex, Microsoft
One alternativeZoom Workplace
MicrosoftChanged
Two alternativesCisco Webex, Zoom Workplace
against: Google Meet
Microsoft, Zoom Workplace
Two alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet
Microsoft
One alternativeZoom Workplace
against: Cisco Webex
no first choiceagainst: Cisco Webex, Discord, Google Meet, Jitsi, Rocket.Chat, TrueConf, Zoom Workplace
Llama 4 MaverickWebEx
Two alternativesGoogle Meet, Zoom Workplace
no first choiceChangedno first choiceZoom Workplace
Two alternativesGoogle Meet, Microsoft
no first choicenothing named
Qwen 3.7 FlashCisco Webex
Three alternativesGoogle Workspace, Microsoft, Zoom One
MicrosoftChanged
Three alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet, Zoom Workplace
Microsoft, Zoom Workplace
Two alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet
against: RingCentral Video
Microsoft
Two alternativesGoogle Meet, Zoom Workplace
no first choiceagainst: Discord, FaceTime, GoTo Meeting, Skype for Business, WhatsApp Video, Zoom Workplace
Kimi K2Cisco Webex
Two alternativesMicrosoft, Zoom Workplace
MicrosoftChanged
One alternativeCisco Webex
against: Zoom Workplace
Microsoft
Three alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet, Zoom Workplace
Microsoft
One alternativeCisco Webex Enterprise Agreement
against: Zoom Workplace
no first choice
Three alternativesMicrosoft, WebEx, Zoom Workplace
against: Google Meet
against: Disco, Facebook Messenger, Google Meet, Houseparty, Skype, WhatsApp Video, Zoom Workplace
GLM 4.7 FlashXMicrosoft
Four alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet, Lifesize, Zoom Workplace
MicrosoftHeld
Two alternativesCisco Webex, Zoom Workplace
Zoom Workplace
Six alternativesCisco Webex, Dialpad, GoToMeeting, Google Meet, Microsoft, RingCentral
Microsoft
Three alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet, Zoom Workplace
no first choiceagainst: GoToMeeting, Google Meet, Microsoft, Skype for Business, Zoom Workplace
MiniMax M2.5WebEx, Zoom Workplace
Two alternativesGoogle Meet, Microsoft
Zoom WorkplaceChanged
Two alternativesCisco Webex, Microsoft
no first choiceMicrosoft
One alternativeZoom Workplace
against: TrueConf, Whereby
Cisco Webex, Microsoft, Zoom Workplace
Two alternativesTrueConf, Wickr Enterprise
against: Cisco Webex, GoToMeeting, Google Meet, Microsoft, Skype for Business, Slack Huddles, Zoom Workplace
GPT-6 LunaZoom Workplace
Two alternativesGoogle Meet, Microsoft
MicrosoftChanged
Two alternativesWebEx, Zoom Workplace
no first choice
Five alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet, Microsoft, RingCentral, Zoom Workplace
Microsoft
One alternativeGoogle Meet
against: Zoom Workplace
no first choiceagainst: Consumer Skype, Google Meet, Skype for Business Server 2015 or 2019, Teams, WebEx, Zoom Workplace, meet.jit.si
Muse Glimmer 30BZoom Workplace
Two alternativesCisco Webex, Microsoft
Cisco WebexChanged
Two alternativesMicrosoft, Zoom Workplace
Zoom Workplace
Three alternativesCisco Webex, Google Meet, Microsoft
Microsoft
One alternativeTrueConf Server
against: Cisco Webex, Zoom Workplace
no first choiceagainst: Cisco Webex, GoToMeeting, Google G Suite, Google Meet, Microsoft, Skype for Business, Slack Huddles, Zoom Workplace
Bold is the first choiceAlternatives are counted; the count opens them.What the answer argued against

The record

One row per call: the version string exactly as returned, whether the model searched, sources cited, and latency. Full answer text is in the free responses file. Download the record
Eighty-four rows: every prompt, every model, every answer.
PromptModelVersion stringTime (UTC)SearchedSourcesLatency
Direct recommendationClaude Haiku 4.5claude-haiku-4-5-202510012026-10-04 22:13no04 s
Direct recommendationGPT-5.4 minigpt-5.4-mini-2026-03-172026-10-05 00:42yes44 s
Direct recommendationGemini 3.5 Flashgemini-3.5-flash2026-10-05 01:15yes1123 s
Direct recommendationPerplexity Sonarsonar2026-10-04 23:32yes182 s
Direct recommendationGrok 4.1 Fastspacexai/grok-4.1-fast-non-reasoning via vertex2026-10-04 22:17yes248 s
Direct recommendationMistral Smallmistral/mistral-small via mistral2026-10-05 01:39yes104 s
Direct recommendationDeepSeek V4 Flashdeepseek/deepseek-v4-flash via deepinfra2026-10-05 00:29yes2152 s
Direct recommendationLlama 4 Maverickmeta/llama-4-maverick via bedrock2026-10-05 00:13yes52 s
Direct recommendationQwen 3.7 Flashalibaba/qwen3.7-flash via alibaba2026-10-05 00:58yes520 s
Direct recommendationKimi K2moonshotai/kimi-k2 via novita2026-10-04 23:43yes1017 s
Direct recommendationGLM 4.7 FlashXzai/glm-4.7-flashx via zai2026-10-05 00:46yes2440 s
Direct recommendationMiniMax M2.5minimax/minimax-m2.5 via minimax2026-10-05 00:22yes517 s
Direct recommendationGPT-6 Lunagpt-6-luna2026-10-04 23:51yes313 s
Direct recommendationMuse Glimmer 30Bmeta/muse-glimmer-30b via togetherai2026-10-05 01:08yes1516 s
ParaphraseClaude Haiku 4.5claude-haiku-4-5-202510012026-10-05 01:01no05 s
ParaphraseGPT-5.4 minigpt-5.4-mini-2026-03-172026-10-05 00:40yes64 s
ParaphraseGemini 3.5 Flashgemini-3.5-flash2026-10-05 01:14no011 s
ParaphrasePerplexity Sonarsonar2026-10-04 23:55yes185 s
ParaphraseGrok 4.1 Fastspacexai/grok-4.1-fast-non-reasoning via vertex2026-10-04 23:11yes229 s
ParaphraseMistral Smallmistral/mistral-small via mistral2026-10-04 22:20yes55 s
ParaphraseDeepSeek V4 Flashdeepseek/deepseek-v4-flash via deepinfra2026-10-05 00:14yes2441 s
ParaphraseLlama 4 Maverickmeta/llama-4-maverick via bedrock2026-10-05 01:43yes54 s
ParaphraseQwen 3.7 Flashalibaba/qwen3.7-flash via alibaba2026-10-05 01:06no030 s
ParaphraseKimi K2moonshotai/kimi-k2 via novita2026-10-04 23:44yes1016 s
ParaphraseGLM 4.7 FlashXzai/glm-4.7-flashx via zai2026-10-05 01:20yes1013 s
ParaphraseMiniMax M2.5minimax/minimax-m2.5 via minimax2026-10-04 22:12yes532 s
ParaphraseGPT-6 Lunagpt-6-luna2026-10-05 01:53yes310 s
ParaphraseMuse Glimmer 30Bmeta/muse-glimmer-30b via togetherai2026-10-04 22:50yes1319 s
ComparativeClaude Haiku 4.5claude-haiku-4-5-202510012026-10-05 01:49yes99 s
ComparativeGPT-5.4 minigpt-5.4-mini-2026-03-172026-10-04 23:51yes56 s
ComparativeGemini 3.5 Flashgemini-3.5-flash2026-10-05 01:24yes1726 s
ComparativePerplexity Sonarsonar2026-10-05 01:29yes175 s
ComparativeGrok 4.1 Fastspacexai/grok-4.1-fast-non-reasoning via vertex2026-10-05 01:46yes2012 s
ComparativeMistral Smallmistral/mistral-small via mistral2026-10-05 01:03yes88 s
ComparativeDeepSeek V4 Flashdeepseek/deepseek-v4-flash via deepinfra2026-10-05 01:49yes2190 s
ComparativeLlama 4 Maverickmeta/llama-4-maverick via bedrock2026-10-05 00:51yes52 s
ComparativeQwen 3.7 Flashalibaba/qwen3.7-flash via alibaba2026-10-05 00:41no026 s
ComparativeKimi K2moonshotai/kimi-k2 via novita2026-10-04 22:09yes1520 s
ComparativeGLM 4.7 FlashXzai/glm-4.7-flashx via zai2026-10-05 00:42yes2247 s
ComparativeMiniMax M2.5minimax/minimax-m2.5 via minimax2026-10-04 23:10yes926 s
ComparativeGPT-6 Lunagpt-6-luna2026-10-05 01:26yes619 s
ComparativeMuse Glimmer 30Bmeta/muse-glimmer-30b via togetherai2026-10-05 01:07yes1326 s
Budget constrainedClaude Haiku 4.5claude-haiku-4-5-202510012026-10-04 22:08yes1812 s
Budget constrainedGPT-5.4 minigpt-5.4-mini-2026-03-172026-10-04 23:07yes34 s
Budget constrainedGemini 3.5 Flashgemini-3.5-flash2026-10-04 22:21yes1528 s
Budget constrainedPerplexity Sonarsonar2026-10-05 01:36yes183 s
Budget constrainedGrok 4.1 Fastspacexai/grok-4.1-fast-non-reasoning via vertex2026-10-05 01:36yes2210 s
Budget constrainedMistral Smallmistral/mistral-small via mistral2026-10-05 00:13yes207 s
Budget constrainedDeepSeek V4 Flashdeepseek/deepseek-v4-flash via deepinfra2026-10-05 00:48yes2470 s
Budget constrainedLlama 4 Maverickmeta/llama-4-maverick via bedrock2026-10-05 01:24yes52 s
Budget constrainedQwen 3.7 Flashalibaba/qwen3.7-flash via alibaba2026-10-05 00:16no030 s
Budget constrainedKimi K2moonshotai/kimi-k2 via novita2026-10-05 01:54yes2033 s
Budget constrainedGLM 4.7 FlashXzai/glm-4.7-flashx via zai2026-10-05 00:47yes1547 s
Budget constrainedMiniMax M2.5minimax/minimax-m2.5 via minimax2026-10-05 01:27yes2155 s
Budget constrainedGPT-6 Lunagpt-6-luna2026-10-04 22:43yes317 s
Budget constrainedMuse Glimmer 30Bmeta/muse-glimmer-30b via togetherai2026-10-05 01:06yes1324 s
Scale constrainedClaude Haiku 4.5claude-haiku-4-5-202510012026-10-04 23:55no09 s
Scale constrainedGPT-5.4 minigpt-5.4-mini-2026-03-172026-10-05 01:49no07 s
Scale constrainedGemini 3.5 Flashgemini-3.5-flash2026-10-04 23:56no014 s
Scale constrainedPerplexity Sonarsonar2026-10-04 23:26yes196 s
Scale constrainedGrok 4.1 Fastspacexai/grok-4.1-fast-non-reasoning via vertex2026-10-04 23:31yes1810 s
Scale constrainedMistral Smallmistral/mistral-small via mistral2026-10-04 23:04no08 s
Scale constrainedDeepSeek V4 Flashdeepseek/deepseek-v4-flash via deepinfra2026-10-05 01:33yes2236 s
Scale constrainedLlama 4 Maverickmeta/llama-4-maverick via bedrock2026-10-05 01:52yes53 s
Scale constrainedQwen 3.7 Flashalibaba/qwen3.7-flash via alibaba2026-10-04 22:23no026 s
Scale constrainedKimi K2moonshotai/kimi-k2 via novita2026-10-05 01:39yes2451 s
Scale constrainedGLM 4.7 FlashXzai/glm-4.7-flashx via zai2026-10-04 23:23yes1576 s
Scale constrainedMiniMax M2.5minimax/minimax-m2.5 via minimax2026-10-05 00:40yes519 s
Scale constrainedGPT-6 Lunagpt-6-luna2026-10-04 22:52yes220 s
Scale constrainedMuse Glimmer 30Bmeta/muse-glimmer-30b via togetherai2026-10-05 01:46yes1522 s
Negative framingClaude Haiku 4.5claude-haiku-4-5-202510012026-10-05 00:15yes2411 s
Negative framingGPT-5.4 minigpt-5.4-mini-2026-03-172026-10-05 00:50yes55 s
Negative framingGemini 3.5 Flashgemini-3.5-flash2026-10-05 01:45yes1128 s
Negative framingPerplexity Sonarsonar2026-10-05 01:48yes263 s
Negative framingGrok 4.1 Fastspacexai/grok-4.1-fast-non-reasoning via vertex2026-10-04 23:37yes1910 s
Negative framingMistral Smallmistral/mistral-small via mistral2026-10-04 23:18yes158 s
Negative framingDeepSeek V4 Flashdeepseek/deepseek-v4-flash via deepinfra2026-10-05 01:22yes2368 s
Negative framingLlama 4 Maverickmeta/llama-4-maverick via bedrock2026-10-05 01:30yes52 s
Negative framingQwen 3.7 Flashalibaba/qwen3.7-flash via alibaba2026-10-05 00:15yes2469 s
Negative framingKimi K2moonshotai/kimi-k2 via novita2026-10-04 23:09yes2325 s
Negative framingGLM 4.7 FlashXzai/glm-4.7-flashx via zai2026-10-05 00:48yes2332 s
Negative framingMiniMax M2.5minimax/minimax-m2.5 via minimax2026-10-04 22:41yes1446 s
Negative framingGPT-6 Lunagpt-6-luna2026-10-04 23:17yes522 s
Negative framingMuse Glimmer 30Bmeta/muse-glimmer-30b via togetherai2026-10-05 00:14yes1324 s

Normalization in this category

Every judgment call made between the raw labels and the numbers above, listed so it is visible and reversible.

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Category-scoped readings
Cisco Webex Meetings read as Cisco Webex
Slack read as Slack Huddles
Slack (Huddles/Video) read as Slack Huddles
Zoom read as Zoom Workplace
Unresolved, counted raw
Apache OpenMeetings
Cisco Webex Enterprise Agreement
Consumer Skype
Convay
Google G Suite
Google Meet via Workspace
Google Workspace Meet
Lark Suite (by ByteDance)
Lifesize
Polycom VVX
Proton Bridge
Skype for Business Server 2015 or 2019
StartMeeting
TeamLink
TrueConf On-Prem
TrueConf Server
Vidyo
VooV Meeting / Tencent Meeting & WeChat Work
Zoho Meetings
Zoom for Enterprise
meet.jit.si
Discontinued, still offered
No shut-down product was recommended here.
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