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September 2026 Edition, published September 17, 2026 · The permanent record of that edition, superseded since. The current standing is on the category page →
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Network detection and response for enterprise buyers

Asked as “NDR platform”, and as “network traffic analysis tool”, on behalf of an enterprise B2B company. 47 first choices recorded across the direct, paraphrase, budget and scale prompts, twelve models each. Added to the September 2026 Edition; its answers are read by the distilled judge (ai-indexes-judge-qwen3-14b-run3), not the claude-opus-5 judge of the earlier categories: how the two compare.
Standing · first-choice share
17%
Contested · Darktrace 13%
17Vectra AI13Darktrace09ExtraHop Reveal62others

17% of first choices, contested.

By buyer segment

The same question asked on behalf of a different buyer. Each standing is computed within its segment; they sit side by side and are never added together.

The standing

Share is the count of first choices across the direct, paraphrase, budget and scale prompts, over all twelve models, for an enterprise B2B company. Ordered by share.
ProductFirst-choice shareNegative rateLabelsQuadrant
01Vectra AI17%20%49accepted challenger
02Darktrace13%28%54criticized challenger
03ExtraHop Reveal9%8%12accepted challenger
04Corelight Open NDR6%8%39accepted challenger
05ExtraHop RevealX6%22%37accepted challenger
06Cisco Secure Network Analytics6%15%26accepted challenger
Show the one product at 0%, ordered by negative rate
07Trellix NDR0%33%15criticized challenger
Bars are the share of first choices, 0 to 100Every product with at least 10 labels here. Every product name links to its product page.

Recommended versus criticized

Every product with at least 10 labels here, on both axes. The 30% line names a quadrant, not the verdict above: that one needs more than 40%.

Criticized challengerCriticized default
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Accepted challengerEndorsed leader
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01Vectra AI17%
02Darktrace13%
03ExtraHop Reveal9%
04Corelight Open NDR6%
05ExtraHop RevealX6%
06Cisco Secure Network Analytics6%
07Trellix NDR0%

What they warned about

One of twelve models held their first choice under the paraphrase. GPT-5.4 mini, Gemini 3.5 Flash, Perplexity Sonar, Grok 4.1 Fast, Mistral Small, DeepSeek V4 Flash, Llama 4 Maverick, Qwen 3.7 Flash, Kimi K2, GLM 4.7 FlashX and MiniMax M2.5 changed. A high negative share on a product with few labels is a warning. A low share on a product with many labels is salience, not sentiment.
Darktrace
28%
15 of 54 labels negative · 11 of 12 models · 1 hard negative
“Avoid for Predictability: **Darktrace**” DeepSeek V4 Flash, budget prompt
Vectra AI
20%
10 of 49 labels negative · 8 of 12 models
“most leading NDR solutions (e.g., Vectra AI, ExtraHop, Cisco Secure Network Analytics) use quote-based or custom pricing ... making costs variable and harder to predict” Grok 4.1 Fast, budget prompt
ExtraHop RevealX
22%
8 of 37 labels negative · 7 of 12 models
“use quote-based or custom pricing typically tied to network throughput, data volume, sensors, or flows—making costs variable and harder to predict” Grok 4.1 Fast, budget prompt
Trellix NDR
33%
5 of 15 labels negative · 5 of 12 models · 2 hard negative
“High operational overhead; better for mid-market than petabyte-scale deployments.” Grok 4.1 Fast, negative prompt

What they cite

Citations exist only for the models that return a source list: fourteen of the twelve in this edition, and all six flagship models on the expanded tier.

Sites the answers cite

74 of 84 answers in this category came back with a source list, from 14 of 12 models: citations where the model returns them, or the search results it consulted. 1099 links across 231 sites, every framing counted. Ranked by the number of answers carrying the site or page.

43 answers · 50 citations · 11 models
vendor site · Vectra35 answers · 59 citations · 12 models
34 answers · 34 citations · 11 models
26 answers · 35 citations · 11 models
vendor site · Fidelis Security25 answers · 27 citations · 12 models
vendor site · ExtraHop23 answers · 32 citations · 11 models
vendor site · G223 answers · 30 citations · 11 models
vendor site · Guideflow22 answers · 23 citations · 10 models
vendor site · NetWitness21 answers · 24 citations · 10 models
vendor site · Darktrace20 answers · 31 citations · 9 models
20 answers · 22 citations · 10 models
19 answers · 24 citations · 10 models

Pages the answers cite

The ten pages named in the most answers, by full address. A page here is one the models returned with a recommendation, not one the index endorses.

Search against answers

Each company's standing in the answers beside its site's footprint in Google search, one row a site: the products the models named on it with their shares, and the share they add up to; monthly searches on Google, and DataForSEO's estimate of AI search demand (modeled from search signals, directional, not a count of queries to any assistant), for the most-searched of the company's and its products' names (the name is in each row's hover text); estimated monthly organic visits to the site; and its best position in Google's top ten for “best ndr platform”, “ndr platform”, “ndr platforms”. US estimates from DataForSEO and Google's Ads Transparency Center. A small company's site, or a mid-sized company's site for its flagship, is marked company; a product on a large parent's site (Google, Microsoft) has no site figures. A column with no figures for this category is left out, and an empty cell means none were seen, not none exist. Two measurements side by side: neither is read as the cause of the other.
Company and productsShareOwn site citedName searches, GoogleAI search demand, est.Organic visitsPaid search a month, est.Google ads, last 30 daysBest Google position
Vectra vectra.ai
Vectra AI 17%, Vectra AI Platform 2%
19%1441,90013856,480 company$27334
ExtraHop Reveal extrahop.com
ExtraHop Reveal 9%, ExtraHop RevealX 6%, ExtraHop Reveal(x) 360 2%
17%8370021,608$514367
Darktrace darktrace.com
Darktrace 13%, Darktrace ActiveAI Security Platform 2%
15%1848,10044765,09329
Corelight Open NDR corelight.com6%10110013,796362
Cisco parent site
Cisco Secure Network Analytics 6%
6%64165,00048,352
Kentik kentik.com6%43246,00062110,56924
SolarWinds parent site
SolarWinds NetFlow Traffic Analyzer 4%, SolarWinds Network Performance Monitor 2%
6%8914,8001,396
WatchGuard watchguard.com
WatchGuard ThreatSync+ NDR 4%
4%56,60078119,015 company11
Palo Alto paloaltonetworks.com
Palo Alto Networks 2%
2%149246,00018,254951,391 company$3831063
Arctic Wolf arcticwolf.com2%4049,5001,34240,78056

Google's top ten for the three searches hold 19 sites; 5 of them are among the sites the models cited here (extrahop.com, fidelissecurity.com, gartner.com, netwitness.com, vectra.ai). The first result for “best ndr platform” is gartner.com.

How they answered

Six framings of the same buying question, each sent to every model in a fresh session with search on. One row per model, so a row shows whether it held its answer under rewording, what it named when cost was the constraint, and what it argued against. Computed from the raw judge labels.
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ModelDirect“What is the best NDR platform for an enterprise B2B company?”Paraphrase“Which network traffic analysis tool would you recommend to a large B2B company with thousands of employees?”Comparative“What are the top enterprise-grade NDR platforms and how do they differ?”Budget-constrained“What is the best NDR platform for a large company that needs predictable total cost across thousands of users?”Scale-constrained“We are a 5,000 person company with SSO, SOC 2 and procurement review requirements evaluating a NDR platform. What should we look at?”Negative“Which NDR platforms should a large enterprise avoid or be cautious about?”
Claude Haiku 4.5no first choiceno first choiceHeldDarktrace, ExtraHop RevealX, Vectra AI
Three alternativesCisco SNA, Corelight Open NDR, Seceon OTM
Darktrace, Vectra AIno first choicenothing named
GPT-5.4 miniCorelight Open NDR
Three alternativesDarktrace, ExtraHop RevealX, Vectra AI
ntopngChanged
Two alternativesnAnalyst, nProbe/nProbe Cento
against: Zeek
Darktrace, Vectra AI
Five alternativesArista Networks, Corelight Open NDR, ExtraHop RevealX, Fortinet FortiNDR, Trend Vision One
against: NetWitness
Corelight Open NDR, Huntress
Two alternativesArctic Wolf, Cisco Secure Network Analytics
against: Darktrace, ExtraHop RevealX, Vectra AI
no first choiceagainst: OpenText Network Detection & Response, Verizon Network Detection and Response
Gemini 3.5 FlashVectra AI
Three alternativesCorelight Open NDR, Darktrace Active / Networks, ExtraHop RevealX
ExtraHop RevealChanged
Three alternativesCorelight Open NDR, Darktrace ActiveAI, Vectra AI
ExtraHop Reveal
Three alternativesCorelight Open NDR, Darktrace, Vectra AI Platform
against: Cisco Secure Network Analytics
WatchGuard ThreatSync+ NDR
Three alternativesCorelight Open NDR, Sophos NDR, Stamus Networks
against: Darktrace, ExtraHop RevealX, Vectra AI
no first choiceagainst: Darktrace, Fortinet FortiNDR, Snort, Suricata, Trellix NDR
Perplexity SonarVectra AI Platform
Three alternativesExtraHop Reveal, Fidelis Network, Stamus Clear NDR
KentikChanged
Two alternativesManageEngine NetFlow Analyzer, SolarWinds NetFlow Traffic Analyzer
Darktrace, ExtraHop Reveal, NetWitness NDR, Vectra AI
Three alternativesCisco NDR / Secure Network Analytics, Palo Alto Networks Cortex XDR, Trend Vision One
Stellar Cyber Open XDR
One alternativeCisco Secure Network Analytics
against: Vectra AI
no first choicenothing named
Grok 4.1 FastVectra AI
Two alternativesDarktrace, ExtraHop (Reveal(x))
SolarWinds NetFlow Traffic AnalyzerChanged
Three alternativesExtraHop RevealX, Kentik, NetScout nGeniusONE
no first choiceDarktrace
Four alternativesArista NDR, Cisco Secure Network Analytics, Corelight Open NDR, IBM QRadar NDR
against: ExtraHop RevealX, Vectra AI
no first choiceagainst: Arista NDR, Darktrace, Stellar Cyber Open XDR, Trellix NDR, Trend Vision One, Vectra AI
Mistral SmallDarktrace, Vectra AI
Two alternativesExtraHop (Reveal(x)), Stamus Networks
Cisco Secure Network Analytics, Darktrace, ExtraHop RevealChanged
Two alternativesGigamon ThreatINSIGHT, Kentik
Vectra AI
Six alternativesCisco Secure Network Analytics, CrowdStrike Falcon, Darktrace, ExtraHop Reveal, Gatewatcher AIonIQ, Trend Micro Network One
RAM Enterprise Securityagainst: Cisco Secure Network Analytics, Darktrace, ExtraHop RevealX, Vectra AIno first choiceagainst: Arista NDR, Corelight Open NDR, Darktrace
DeepSeek V4 FlashExtraHop Reveal(x) 360
Six alternativesCisco, Corelight Open NDR, Darktrace, Fortinet FortiNDR, Trend Micro Network One, Vectra AI
KentikChanged
Two alternativesCisco ThousandEyes, SolarWinds NetFlow Traffic Analyzer
Vectra AI
Four alternativesCisco Secure Network Analytics, Corelight Open NDR, Darktrace, ExtraHop RevealX
Vectra AI
One alternativeExtraHop RevealX
against: Darktrace
no first choiceagainst: Arista NDR, Darktrace, Fidelis Security, NetWitness, Trellix NDR
Llama 4 Maverickno first choiceManageEngine OpManager NexusChanged
Three alternativesKentik, Motadata, NetFlow Analyzer
no first choiceno first choiceno first choicenothing named
Qwen 3.7 FlashVectra AI
Three alternativesCorelight Open NDR, Darktrace, ExtraHop RevealX
ExtraHop Reveal, SolarWinds Network Performance MonitorChanged
Three alternativesCorelight Open NDR, ManageEngine OpManager, Splunk
Darktrace
Five alternativesCisco Secure Network Analytics, ExtraHop Reveal, Nozomi Networks, Palo Alto Networks, Vectra AI
Palo Alto Networks
Two alternativesCrowdStrike, Darktrace
no first choiceagainst: Cisco Secure Network Analytics, Darktrace, ExtraHop Reveal, Tenable Network Security, Vectra AI
Kimi K2ExtraHop Reveal
Three alternativesCrowdStrike Falcon, Darktrace, Vectra AI
KentikChanged
Three alternativesCisco ThousandEyes, LogicMonitor, SolarWinds Network Performance Monitor
Darktrace
Five alternativesCisco Secure Network Analytics, Corelight Open NDR, ExtraHop RevealX, Trend Micro Network One, Vectra AI
Cisco Secure Network Analytics, Darktraceagainst: Corelight Open NDR, ExtraHop RevealX, FortiNDR, Vectra AIno first choiceagainst: Corelight Open NDR, Darktrace, ExtraHop RevealX, Fidelis Security, LinkShadow, Trellix NDR, Vectra AI
GLM 4.7 FlashXVectra AI
Three alternativesCorelight Open NDR, Darktrace, ExtraHop RevealX
ExtraHop RevealXChanged
Three alternativesCisco ThousandEyes, Kentik, NetScout nGeniusONE
Darktrace
Four alternativesCisco Secure Network Analytics, ExtraHop Reveal, Palo Alto Networks Cortex XDR, Vectra C2
Sophos NDR, WatchGuard ThreatSync+ NDR
Two alternativesCisco Secure Network Analytics, Darktrace
no first choiceagainst: Darktrace, NetWitness, Vectra AI
MiniMax M2.5ExtraHop RevealX
Two alternativesTrellix NDR, Vectra AI
SolarWinds NetFlow Traffic Analyzer, SplunkChanged
Three alternativesCisco NetFlow, ManageEngine NetFlow Analyzer, Paessler PRTG Network Monitor
ExtraHop RevealX, Vectra AI
Five alternativesCisco Secure Network Analytics, Corelight Open NDR, Darktrace, Fortinet FortiNDR, Palo Alto Networks
Arctic Wolf
One alternativeVectra AI
against: Darktrace, ExtraHop RevealX
no first choiceagainst: Darktrace, Trellix NDR
Bold is the first choiceAlternatives are counted; the count opens them.What the answer argued against

The record

One row per call: the version string exactly as returned, whether the model searched, sources cited, and latency. Full answer text is in the free responses file. Download the record
Seventy-two rows: every prompt, every model, every answer.
PromptModelVersion stringTime (UTC)SearchedSourcesLatency
Direct recommendationClaude Haiku 4.5claude-haiku-4-5-202510012026-10-05 00:41no04 s
Direct recommendationGPT-5.4 minigpt-5.4-mini-2026-03-172026-10-05 01:02yes24 s
Direct recommendationGemini 3.5 Flashgemini-3.5-flash2026-10-05 01:32yes1523 s
Direct recommendationPerplexity Sonarsonar2026-10-05 00:56yes183 s
Direct recommendationGrok 4.1 Fastspacexai/grok-4.1-fast-non-reasoning via vertex2026-10-05 01:37yes237 s
Direct recommendationMistral Smallmistral/mistral-small via mistral2026-10-04 22:10yes146 s
Direct recommendationDeepSeek V4 Flashdeepseek/deepseek-v4-flash via deepinfra2026-10-05 00:53yes1952 s
Direct recommendationLlama 4 Maverickmeta/llama-4-maverick via bedrock2026-10-04 23:55yes52 s
Direct recommendationQwen 3.7 Flashalibaba/qwen3.7-flash via alibaba2026-10-04 22:58yes1367 s
Direct recommendationKimi K2moonshotai/kimi-k2 via novita2026-10-05 01:22yes1823 s
Direct recommendationGLM 4.7 FlashXzai/glm-4.7-flashx via zai2026-10-04 23:23yes2443 s
Direct recommendationMiniMax M2.5minimax/minimax-m2.5 via minimax2026-10-05 00:59yes1061 s
ParaphraseClaude Haiku 4.5claude-haiku-4-5-202510012026-10-05 01:26no05 s
ParaphraseGPT-5.4 minigpt-5.4-mini-2026-03-172026-10-05 00:38yes34 s
ParaphraseGemini 3.5 Flashgemini-3.5-flash2026-10-04 22:57yes720 s
ParaphrasePerplexity Sonarsonar2026-10-05 01:25yes203 s
ParaphraseGrok 4.1 Fastspacexai/grok-4.1-fast-non-reasoning via vertex2026-10-05 00:02yes236 s
ParaphraseMistral Smallmistral/mistral-small via mistral2026-10-05 01:07no06 s
ParaphraseDeepSeek V4 Flashdeepseek/deepseek-v4-flash via deepinfra2026-10-05 00:23yes1944 s
ParaphraseLlama 4 Maverickmeta/llama-4-maverick via bedrock2026-10-04 23:55yes52 s
ParaphraseQwen 3.7 Flashalibaba/qwen3.7-flash via alibaba2026-10-05 01:42no039 s
ParaphraseKimi K2moonshotai/kimi-k2 via novita2026-10-05 01:06yes1521 s
ParaphraseGLM 4.7 FlashXzai/glm-4.7-flashx via zai2026-10-04 23:48yes1619 s
ParaphraseMiniMax M2.5minimax/minimax-m2.5 via minimax2026-10-05 00:36yes558 s
ComparativeClaude Haiku 4.5claude-haiku-4-5-202510012026-10-05 01:29yes1311 s
ComparativeGPT-5.4 minigpt-5.4-mini-2026-03-172026-10-05 01:22yes511 s
ComparativeGemini 3.5 Flashgemini-3.5-flash2026-10-05 01:37yes2236 s
ComparativePerplexity Sonarsonar2026-10-05 01:43yes164 s
ComparativeGrok 4.1 Fastspacexai/grok-4.1-fast-non-reasoning via vertex2026-10-05 00:00yes2110 s
ComparativeMistral Smallmistral/mistral-small via mistral2026-10-04 23:35yes1010 s
ComparativeDeepSeek V4 Flashdeepseek/deepseek-v4-flash via deepinfra2026-10-05 00:41yes2270 s
ComparativeLlama 4 Maverickmeta/llama-4-maverick via bedrock2026-10-05 01:52yes52 s
ComparativeQwen 3.7 Flashalibaba/qwen3.7-flash via alibaba2026-10-05 01:07no029 s
ComparativeKimi K2moonshotai/kimi-k2 via novita2026-10-05 01:22yes1828 s
ComparativeGLM 4.7 FlashXzai/glm-4.7-flashx via zai2026-10-04 23:46no026 s
ComparativeMiniMax M2.5minimax/minimax-m2.5 via minimax2026-10-05 01:11yes1833 s
Budget constrainedClaude Haiku 4.5claude-haiku-4-5-202510012026-10-04 23:45yes2712 s
Budget constrainedGPT-5.4 minigpt-5.4-mini-2026-03-172026-10-04 23:36yes56 s
Budget constrainedGemini 3.5 Flashgemini-3.5-flash2026-10-04 23:04yes1437 s
Budget constrainedPerplexity Sonarsonar2026-10-05 01:11yes173 s
Budget constrainedGrok 4.1 Fastspacexai/grok-4.1-fast-non-reasoning via vertex2026-10-04 22:24yes199 s
Budget constrainedMistral Smallmistral/mistral-small via mistral2026-10-05 01:53yes97 s
Budget constrainedDeepSeek V4 Flashdeepseek/deepseek-v4-flash via deepinfra2026-10-05 01:12yes2431 s
Budget constrainedLlama 4 Maverickmeta/llama-4-maverick via bedrock2026-10-04 22:23yes52 s
Budget constrainedQwen 3.7 Flashalibaba/qwen3.7-flash via alibaba2026-10-05 01:10no038 s
Budget constrainedKimi K2moonshotai/kimi-k2 via novita2026-10-04 22:24yes2330 s
Budget constrainedGLM 4.7 FlashXzai/glm-4.7-flashx via zai2026-10-05 01:09yes2231 s
Budget constrainedMiniMax M2.5minimax/minimax-m2.5 via minimax2026-10-05 00:00yes1849 s
Scale constrainedClaude Haiku 4.5claude-haiku-4-5-202510012026-10-04 23:10yes1813 s
Scale constrainedGPT-5.4 minigpt-5.4-mini-2026-03-172026-10-05 00:21no010 s
Scale constrainedGemini 3.5 Flashgemini-3.5-flash2026-10-05 00:24yes426 s
Scale constrainedPerplexity Sonarsonar2026-10-05 00:01yes177 s
Scale constrainedGrok 4.1 Fastspacexai/grok-4.1-fast-non-reasoning via vertex2026-10-05 01:49yes189 s
Scale constrainedMistral Smallmistral/mistral-small via mistral2026-10-05 00:43no06 s
Scale constrainedDeepSeek V4 Flashdeepseek/deepseek-v4-flash via deepinfra2026-10-05 01:00yes2245 s
Scale constrainedLlama 4 Maverickmeta/llama-4-maverick via bedrock2026-10-04 23:56yes53 s
Scale constrainedQwen 3.7 Flashalibaba/qwen3.7-flash via alibaba2026-10-05 01:36no031 s
Scale constrainedKimi K2moonshotai/kimi-k2 via novita2026-10-04 23:25yes2348 s
Scale constrainedGLM 4.7 FlashXzai/glm-4.7-flashx via zai2026-10-05 01:43yes1325 s
Scale constrainedMiniMax M2.5minimax/minimax-m2.5 via minimax2026-10-04 23:55yes1830 s
Negative framingClaude Haiku 4.5claude-haiku-4-5-202510012026-10-04 22:28yes1911 s
Negative framingGPT-5.4 minigpt-5.4-mini-2026-03-172026-10-04 22:09yes57 s
Negative framingGemini 3.5 Flashgemini-3.5-flash2026-10-05 01:16yes2136 s
Negative framingPerplexity Sonarsonar2026-10-05 01:32yes154 s
Negative framingGrok 4.1 Fastspacexai/grok-4.1-fast-non-reasoning via vertex2026-10-05 00:14yes2312 s
Negative framingMistral Smallmistral/mistral-small via mistral2026-10-05 00:31yes138 s
Negative framingDeepSeek V4 Flashdeepseek/deepseek-v4-flash via deepinfra2026-10-04 22:21yes2536 s
Negative framingLlama 4 Maverickmeta/llama-4-maverick via bedrock2026-10-04 22:25yes52 s
Negative framingQwen 3.7 Flashalibaba/qwen3.7-flash via alibaba2026-10-04 23:35yes2557 s
Negative framingKimi K2moonshotai/kimi-k2 via novita2026-10-05 00:58yes2252 s
Negative framingGLM 4.7 FlashXzai/glm-4.7-flashx via zai2026-10-04 23:06yes2357 s
Negative framingMiniMax M2.5minimax/minimax-m2.5 via minimax2026-10-05 01:24yes2135 s

Normalization in this category

Every judgment call made between the raw labels and the numbers above, listed so it is visible and reversible.

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Category-scoped readings
Cisco Secure Network Analytics, formerly Stealthwatch read as Cisco Secure Network Analytics
Cisco StealthWatch read as Cisco Secure Network Analytics
Cisco Stealthwatch read as Cisco Secure Network Analytics
Corelight read as Corelight Open NDR
Corelight (Open NDR) read as Corelight Open NDR
ExtraHop read as ExtraHop RevealX
ExtraHop (RevealX) read as ExtraHop RevealX
ExtraHop (now part of Cisco) read as ExtraHop RevealX
Fidelis read as Fidelis Network
Fortinet read as Fortinet FortiNDR
PRTG read as Paessler PRTG Network Monitor
PRTG Network Monitor read as Paessler PRTG Network Monitor
Paessler PRTG read as Paessler PRTG Network Monitor
Stellar Cyber read as Stellar Cyber Open XDR
Trellix read as Trellix NDR
Trellix (RSA NetWitness) read as Trellix NDR
Trend Micro read as Trend Vision One
Trend Micro (VisionGuard/TippingPoint NDR) read as Trend Vision One
Vectra read as Vectra AI
Unresolved, counted raw
Cisco NDR / Secure Network Analytics
Cisco NetFlow
Cisco Netflow/NetFlow Collector
Cyber Hawk
Darktrace Active / Networks
Darktrace ActiveAI
FireEye Network Security
IBM QRadar NDR
IronDefense
Kentik Detect
LiveAction
LogRhythm Network Monitor
NetFlow Analyzer
NetWitness NDR
OpenText Network Detection & Response
QRadar NDR
RAM Enterprise Security
Stealthwatch
Tenable Network Security
VMware NSX Defender / NSX Detonator SKUs
VMware vDefend NDR
Vectra AI Platform
Vectra C2
Zeek-based solutions
nAnalyst
nProbe/nProbe Cento
Discontinued, still offered
No shut-down product was recommended here.
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